Would other models agree?
A new alignment seed gives another trial with the same embeddings. To speak of other model families, we must choose them before seeing the results, then report every pairing and failure.
Not yet testedAN INQUIRY INTO UNPAIRED ROSETTA 10 OCT 2026
Let us ask of Unpaired Rosetta: how much of the agreement belongs to what is seen, and how much to the models through which we see it?
This scene is an allegory made for the inquiry. The measured evidence is given below.
01 / THE QUESTION
What follows from agreement?
The chosen encoders may share training data, objectives, or useful biases. If we repeat the solver but keep the encoders, we have not yet asked whether other models would agree.
A new alignment seed gives another trial with the same embeddings. To speak of other model families, we must choose them before seeing the results, then report every pairing and failure.
Not yet testedTwo datasets may bear different names and still contain the same images. The metadata shows that some COCO source images are described in Stanford Paragraph Captioning (SPC).
Metadata examinedTo find a horse is not yet to distinguish this horse, its number, its place, or what it does. Retrieval must also be tested among things of the same kind, where broad categories no longer suffice.
Further trials proposedFIVE NEW PHOTOGRAPHS · COMPLETED
Five things. Five names.
Slide, Trashcan, Tree, Basketball and Water fountain: the five human labels, each supplied with a new photograph. We asked whether the arrangement of the image features resembled the arrangement of the word features closely enough to recover their correspondence.
THE QUESTION WE ACTUALLY TESTED
Which of the 120 assignments makes the distances agree?
Original DINOv1 describes the photographs; original GloVe describes the exact human labels. Compare the ten distances between image pairs with the ten distances between word pairs. Examine every one-to-one assignment and choose the smallest mean squared difference. The matcher receives no correct image–label pairs.
We chose this test after seeing the photographs, then published its code and rules before computing their features or scores. All five images and the complete set of candidate labels take part in selection. This is a small exploratory test, with no unseen evaluation set.
One correct match out of five.
| Photograph’s human label | Chosen label | Match |
|---|---|---|
| Slide | Basketball | No |
| Trashcan | Tree | No |
| Tree | Trashcan | No |
| Basketball | Slide | No |
| Water fountain | Water fountain | Yes |
The human assignment ranked 94th of 120 by the fixed distance rule. The selected assignment had cost 0.037819; the human assignment, 0.073473. The optimum was unique at the prescribed tolerance of 10−12, with a gap of 0.000281 to the next cost. Cost is the mean squared difference between ten pairs of distances.
For the selected assignment, those distance pairs had Pearson correlation 0.878. Four names still went to the wrong photographs. One correct match is also the average under a random assignment; this single result does not establish a general level of accuracy.
The collector attests that all five photographs were taken after the model files were fixed. If that account is true, these particular captures could not have trained those files. The attestation is not independent proof of capture time; familiar objects, words and places remain possible training material.
Capture time attested by collectorFive photographs from one outing are five observations. The 120 assignments are alternatives, not 120 independent trials. A random assignment gets one of five right on average. We report no significance test or general accuracy estimate.
One chosen model pairKeep the supplied words, fixed center crop and distance rule. Shared backgrounds, ambiguous words and the crop may affect the result. This calculation trains no cross-modal map and is not a run of the Rosetta algorithm.
Model choice remains untestedRun on 10 October 2026. The distance objective failed to recover four of the five human matches in this set. This does not refute Rosetta or settle what another model pair would do. Code and protocol were published before inference. The two earlier proposed collections below remain separate records.
THE EARLIER 48-PHOTOGRAPH PLAN · NOT RUN
Keep the proposal distinct from the trial.
This earlier proposal asked whether two frozen models support correspondence between new photographs and descriptions when supplied with correct fitting pairs. Its 48 photographs have not been collected. The five-photo trial above follows different rules and does not complete this plan.
THE REASON FOR THAT PROPOSAL
The scene comes after the model.
Publish the exact model hashes, collection rules and analysis code before taking the photographs. If that order is honestly followed, these particular recorded events cannot have trained those already fixed files. We need not rely only on the model publisher’s account of its old training corpus.
This is a narrower defence, not a claim of complete purity. The models have seen mugs and books; ordinary phrases may recur. Markers and file hashes support the collection record but cannot independently prove capture time. The choice of models remains an open question.
Original DINOv1 ViT-B/16 and GloVe 6B/300d. Publish their byte hashes, image crop, text rule, sample and six fits. Recheck the files before inference. Read the fixed protocol.
Eight kinds of everyday object, photographed in six rounds. Four fitting rounds use one set of physical objects; two development rounds use a different set. A person writes the captions after all photographs exist.
Run separate image and word noun probes, a paired ridge map and three maps fitted with shuffled pairs. Keep repeated descriptions, exact ties and failures in the account. Balanced random choice is 12.5%.
Mug, bowl, plate, bottle, spoon, fork, book and shoe. Gather two physical examples of each: sixteen objects. The sixteen development photographs show eight held-out objects twice. They are not sixteen independent instances.
32 fit · 16 developmentThe correct pairs would be supplied under this proposal. If even that mapping failed, an unpaired failure would be hard to interpret. A useful paired result would give reason to design another trial; it would not establish unpaired alignment.
Paired competence fits proposedNo tuning, added photographs or changed categories after seeing scores. No final test has been collected. Two development rounds and three shuffle references cannot bear a claim of statistical significance.
This proposed study has not runEarlier prospective protocol · 10 October 2026. Preserved collection record · The 48-photograph collection has not begun. Software checks used artificial fixtures. This plan and the paused EPIC plan below remain separate from the five-photo trial.
THE EARLIER EPIC PLAN · PAUSED
Let the claim be no larger than the trial.
Can one fixed image model and one fixed word model recover object-category correspondence on later kitchen recordings, when their alignment receives no paired episodes? That was the proposed EPIC test. Its protocol and limits remain available; the five-photo trial does not resume or complete it.
WHY BEGIN HERE?
A narrower claim is easier to defend.
The training corpora predate these recorded episodes. Under the published training histories, memorizing these particular episodes cannot explain a result. This makes the case stronger against direct episode exposure. Familiar objects, ordinary phrases and the choices of the model builders remain part of the account.
The question was narrow; the proposed run was substantial. One model pair, one source of recordings and one primary measure keep the claim narrow. The frozen plan calls for 9,392 clips, 37,568 frames and 17 fits. Those alignment fits have not run.
The ImageNet-1K collection, used without class labels by original DINOv1 ViT-B/16. DINO training record · ImageNet release
Original GloVe 6B: Wikipedia 2014 and the older Gigaword 5 collection. We average its word vectors without further language training. Original GloVe release
EPIC-KITCHENS-55 recordings and their human narrations. The recording years come from the per-video metadata. Recording dates
These are corpus and recording dates, not model publication dates. The argument depends on the documented training histories and publisher-supplied dates. A short phrase may occur in both old text and a later narration; that alone is not exposure to the later episode.
The existing sample was fixed before alignment scores: 6,639 fitting clips, 1,127 development clips and 1,626 test clips. The seven test kitchens appear in neither other partition.
Selection checkedThe main fit receives images from 73 videos and text from 74 different videos. Known-pair mappings, shuffled-pair mappings, random maps and separate encoder probes help us interpret success and failure.
17 fits prescribed · pausedThe first measure asks whether the nearest description has the same annotated noun class. Each test kitchen receives equal weight; duplicate descriptions and exact ties are accounted for. Recognizing a cup does not yet distinguish this cup or what is done with it.
No benchmark scores| What we observe | What we may conclude |
|---|---|
| Unpaired retrieval exceeds the negative controls; paired retrieval also works. | Evidence of recoverable object-category correspondence for this pair on later episodes. Shared concepts and model biases remain possible explanations for that correspondence. |
| Paired retrieval works; unpaired retrieval does not. | The frozen features support a useful mapping with pairing information. The tested unpaired procedure has not recovered it under these conditions. |
| Neither paired nor unpaired retrieval works. | The features, pooling, task or domain may be unsuitable. This outcome alone cannot identify the unpaired solver as the cause. |
Unexpected behavior between controls also needs investigation. No outcome from this one pair establishes a universal representation, understanding of actions or syntax, or independence from model choice. Changing both the models and the benchmark cannot measure how much contamination affected the original COCO/SPC result.
The run is paused. Acquisition and its supervisor were suspended on 10 October 2026 before any full EPIC alignment scores. Existing data, caches and the fixed protocol are preserved. The five-photo trial and the unrun 48-photo proposal are separate records.
The controls have limits too. Paired and shared-episode controls use all fitting clips, a larger information budget than the main disjoint fit. Annotated action windows supply preprocessing supervision. These comparisons cannot isolate contamination by themselves.
Work record · 10 October 2026. Paused-run record · Code and checks. The earlier pilot below used different models and data.
EXAMINING THE SOURCES
We joined the SPC, Visual Genome, and COCO metadata. In the released cross-dataset setup, some descriptions and images refer to the same source.
Read the source recordThis establishes shared sources. It does not show that the aligner was told which items were pairs. The effect on published performance is still unknown; this finding does not concern the separate disjoint-half COCO experiment.
02 / THE EARLIER PILOT
The first check held the models still.
Keep DINOv2-B and MPNet fixed. Remove the known shared sources, then compare each removal with a random-removal control of the same size.
O / ORIGINAL
Keep the known validation and training source matches. This gives us the starting condition.
What do we observe before removing either kind of shared source?
These are the full populations, before the pilot’s 4,096-row cap. Here we count paragraph rows; above we count unique COCO images. Random controls use selection seed 0.
Ask each the same questions. Every arm uses the same three 2,048-query sets and complete 40,504-item gallery. Clean, all-population, and originally exposed queries are sampled separately.
Say only what was removed. “Source-disjoint” means known metadata identities only. Missing mappings, visual near-duplicates, and pretraining overlap remain unresolved. Random deletion matches size, not semantic composition.
03 / WHAT HAS BEEN SHOWN
Recorded · 10 October 2026
Each of the five conditions completed three alignment seeds. The reduced pilot shows that the runs finish, the exclusions are applied, and the saved results pass consistency checks.
Each fit uses 4,096 training rows per modality. These equal caps remove the full-population size contrasts. The scores therefore do not estimate the effects of the planned full-data exclusions.
Read the checksVerification did not recompute embedding similarities or Recall@k from scratch.
FOSCTTM below uses the same clean queries against the full gallery. Lower is better. These reduced runs check the procedure; their scores do not answer the scientific question. Every seed is shown.
| Arm | Fit seed | Status | FOSCTTM | Fit time |
|---|
THE RECORDS
The protocol and evidence records are below. They describe the work as it stood on the date shown; they do not update as experiments run.